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		<title>By: Marieke</title>
		<link>http://www.trifles.nl/2009/12/09/baking-bread-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-29386</link>
		<dc:creator>Marieke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 May 2010 11:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Dick Thomson,

The recipe is based on Jeffrey Hamelman&#039;s recipe for Pain Rustique which you can find in his book &#039;bread&#039;. Ed adapted it for our oven and climate, flour from our local mill etcetera and added his own way of shaping. The best way to try and &#039;make it your own&#039; is to start with the Hamelman recipe. You can find a lot of information on this subject at www.thefreshloaf.com a.o..

Have fun with the baking!

Marieke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Dick Thomson,</p>
<p>The recipe is based on Jeffrey Hamelman&#8217;s recipe for Pain Rustique which you can find in his book &#8216;bread&#8217;. Ed adapted it for our oven and climate, flour from our local mill etcetera and added his own way of shaping. The best way to try and &#8216;make it your own&#8217; is to start with the Hamelman recipe. You can find a lot of information on this subject at <a href="http://www.thefreshloaf.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.thefreshloaf.com</a> a.o..</p>
<p>Have fun with the baking!</p>
<p>Marieke</p>
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		<title>By: Mimi</title>
		<link>http://www.trifles.nl/2009/12/09/baking-bread-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-29331</link>
		<dc:creator>Mimi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Apr 2010 17:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was the coolest video ever! Thank you Baking Man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was the coolest video ever! Thank you Baking Man.</p>
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		<title>By: dick thompson</title>
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		<dc:creator>dick thompson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Apr 2010 01:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was looking for the recipe that was used to build your bread dough.  Looks good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was looking for the recipe that was used to build your bread dough.  Looks good.</p>
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		<title>By: Marieke</title>
		<link>http://www.trifles.nl/2009/12/09/baking-bread-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-27592</link>
		<dc:creator>Marieke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 16:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jenny,

These are the hands of Ed, my husband, you see in the movie. Some hands are made for playing the piano, some for making bread. Ed has that special touch and also the confidence to handle the dough. But I must say our bread oven (with the chamotte stones) is also a big help in getting the bread to it&#039;s final shape, taste and texture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jenny,</p>
<p>These are the hands of Ed, my husband, you see in the movie. Some hands are made for playing the piano, some for making bread. Ed has that special touch and also the confidence to handle the dough. But I must say our bread oven (with the chamotte stones) is also a big help in getting the bread to it&#8217;s final shape, taste and texture.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenny</title>
		<link>http://www.trifles.nl/2009/12/09/baking-bread-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-27589</link>
		<dc:creator>Jenny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 11:53:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marieke - what a lovely video and oh yes,  the rise was fantastic.  I&#039;m totally inspired to try this out, although I do lack equipments in my kitchen.  Hope I can still get the same outcome using my pair of hands!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marieke &#8211; what a lovely video and oh yes,  the rise was fantastic.  I&#8217;m totally inspired to try this out, although I do lack equipments in my kitchen.  Hope I can still get the same outcome using my pair of hands!</p>
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		<title>By: Marieke</title>
		<link>http://www.trifles.nl/2009/12/09/baking-bread-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-27492</link>
		<dc:creator>Marieke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 14:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marc,

Thank you very much!
I know what you mean. I use the book &#039;pastry&#039; by Michel Roux, which has the recipes for Pâte brisée,Pâte sucrée, sablée etcetera, I like it very much. People in Holland tend to appreciate the Dutch apple pie best which is sort of understandable, it&#039;s what we grew up with. But I made an apple pie that&#039;s sort of Dutch with a French twist that&#039;s also a hit with friends and family (see: www.trifles.nl/2007/11/10/apple-pie-a-dutch-french-affaire/) maybe it&#039;s because of the Calvados??. 

Fresh yeast in a supermarket in Holland? I have never seen it. And most of the bakers over here are no real bakers any more, but stores that get their bread delivered from a bigger factory. Try asking them for fresh yeast and you can guess what happens...
But like I said, the sourdough cultures are really thriving so less need for yeast, fresh or dry.

Have fun with the baking Marc!

Marieke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marc,</p>
<p>Thank you very much!<br />
I know what you mean. I use the book &#8216;pastry&#8217; by Michel Roux, which has the recipes for Pâte brisée,Pâte sucrée, sablée etcetera, I like it very much. People in Holland tend to appreciate the Dutch apple pie best which is sort of understandable, it&#8217;s what we grew up with. But I made an apple pie that&#8217;s sort of Dutch with a French twist that&#8217;s also a hit with friends and family (see: <a href="http://www.trifles.nl/2007/11/10/apple-pie-a-dutch-french-affaire/" rel="nofollow">http://www.trifles.nl/2007/11/10/apple-pie-a-dutch-french-affaire/</a>) maybe it&#8217;s because of the Calvados??. </p>
<p>Fresh yeast in a supermarket in Holland? I have never seen it. And most of the bakers over here are no real bakers any more, but stores that get their bread delivered from a bigger factory. Try asking them for fresh yeast and you can guess what happens&#8230;<br />
But like I said, the sourdough cultures are really thriving so less need for yeast, fresh or dry.</p>
<p>Have fun with the baking Marc!</p>
<p>Marieke</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 19:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Marieke, thank you for your scientific response on autolyse, luckily we do not need to be biologists to bake great bread! I understand the technique of stretch&amp;fold, very much like &quot;fraiser la pâte&quot; when making a crust for a french style apple pie (you know, the very flat beautiful looking and tasting one) for instance, where you push three or four times the mixture of flour, butter and egg/milk away without kneading, which would turn the pastry too elastic and result in a totally different texture and taste (merci Bocuse!).
Ok for the dried yeast, I have never used it myself. If you say so I believe it immediately! Fresh yeast goes bad quite quickly, and you never have it when you need it (hurray for Jumbo that always has it, those 42 gram cubes like every supermarket in Switzerland or France has). Dried yeast surely solves that problem.
I appreciate very much your site and your swift responses to reactions. Keep it up!
Marc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Marieke, thank you for your scientific response on autolyse, luckily we do not need to be biologists to bake great bread! I understand the technique of stretch&amp;fold, very much like &#8220;fraiser la pâte&#8221; when making a crust for a french style apple pie (you know, the very flat beautiful looking and tasting one) for instance, where you push three or four times the mixture of flour, butter and egg/milk away without kneading, which would turn the pastry too elastic and result in a totally different texture and taste (merci Bocuse!).<br />
Ok for the dried yeast, I have never used it myself. If you say so I believe it immediately! Fresh yeast goes bad quite quickly, and you never have it when you need it (hurray for Jumbo that always has it, those 42 gram cubes like every supermarket in Switzerland or France has). Dried yeast surely solves that problem.<br />
I appreciate very much your site and your swift responses to reactions. Keep it up!<br />
Marc</p>
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		<title>By: Marieke</title>
		<link>http://www.trifles.nl/2009/12/09/baking-bread-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-27239</link>
		<dc:creator>Marieke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Marc,

Thanks for your kind remarks! In biology terms autolysis refers to the destruction of a cell through the action of its own enzymes (also known as self digestion). In bread baking terms it means a mixing of water and flour (and preferment) and letting it rest for at least twenty minutes. The flour and water are mixed enough that they are thoroughly incorporated, but not beyond. This allows the flour to hydrate and the enzymes to start working, particularly protease which works to break down the protein in the flour. The goal of autolyse is to make the dough stronger and more extensible, better able to stretch without tearing (in our movie you also see us using the &#039;stretch &amp; fold technique). The well hydrated protein forms stronger gluten chains, while the protease works to break down some of the gluten for better extensibility. All of this happens without mixing, so less oxygen is mixed into the dough, which causes the bleaching of colour and flavour.

This technique was invented by Raymond Calvel, a French baker who wrote &quot;The Taste of Bread&quot;, considered a &#039;bread bible&#039; by many. Mr Calvel has been credited with creating a revival of French-style breadmaking. He also taught Julia Child. 

If you are into bread baking yourself, it&#039;s really worth considering this technique. Less kneading and better taste and texture..who wouldn&#039;t want that! All you need is time.

Marieke 

PS: the use of fresh or dry yeast is a whole other discussion. We have used both fresh and dry yeast and do not see that much difference. Advantage of these Calvel techniques is you also use way less yeast than you do with the more &#039;regular&#039; recipes. We DO see difference in bread quality and taste, and much more so, when using different techniques, more time, different flour and also when using our own sourdough cultures, which we are using more and more.

Marieke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Marc,</p>
<p>Thanks for your kind remarks! In biology terms autolysis refers to the destruction of a cell through the action of its own enzymes (also known as self digestion). In bread baking terms it means a mixing of water and flour (and preferment) and letting it rest for at least twenty minutes. The flour and water are mixed enough that they are thoroughly incorporated, but not beyond. This allows the flour to hydrate and the enzymes to start working, particularly protease which works to break down the protein in the flour. The goal of autolyse is to make the dough stronger and more extensible, better able to stretch without tearing (in our movie you also see us using the &#8216;stretch &#038; fold technique). The well hydrated protein forms stronger gluten chains, while the protease works to break down some of the gluten for better extensibility. All of this happens without mixing, so less oxygen is mixed into the dough, which causes the bleaching of colour and flavour.</p>
<p>This technique was invented by Raymond Calvel, a French baker who wrote &#8220;The Taste of Bread&#8221;, considered a &#8216;bread bible&#8217; by many. Mr Calvel has been credited with creating a revival of French-style breadmaking. He also taught Julia Child. </p>
<p>If you are into bread baking yourself, it&#8217;s really worth considering this technique. Less kneading and better taste and texture..who wouldn&#8217;t want that! All you need is time.</p>
<p>Marieke </p>
<p>PS: the use of fresh or dry yeast is a whole other discussion. We have used both fresh and dry yeast and do not see that much difference. Advantage of these Calvel techniques is you also use way less yeast than you do with the more &#8216;regular&#8217; recipes. We DO see difference in bread quality and taste, and much more so, when using different techniques, more time, different flour and also when using our own sourdough cultures, which we are using more and more.</p>
<p>Marieke</p>
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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://www.trifles.nl/2009/12/09/baking-bread-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-27218</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jan 2010 19:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Marieke, great video, thanks! a few small questions though: forgive my ignorance, but what is autolyse? I know electrolyse, für Elise ;-), but... And why not use fresh yeast?. Great oven, simply great, looking at it I can smell the bread baking.
Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Marieke, great video, thanks! a few small questions though: forgive my ignorance, but what is autolyse? I know electrolyse, für Elise <img src='http://www.trifles.nl/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> , but&#8230; And why not use fresh yeast?. Great oven, simply great, looking at it I can smell the bread baking.<br />
Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Marieke</title>
		<link>http://www.trifles.nl/2009/12/09/baking-bread-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-27055</link>
		<dc:creator>Marieke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Doncello,

The mixer is of German making. It&#039;s a Häussler Alpha mixer with a 6 kilo dough capacity and removable dough hook and removable bowl, which we find really practical. We have a one speed model but recently Häussler also introduced a 2 speed model. We are very content with this mixer.
(see also http://www.haeussler-gmbh.de/de/produkte/produkte_teigknetmaschinen.php?id=3)

Regards,

Marieke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Doncello,</p>
<p>The mixer is of German making. It&#8217;s a Häussler Alpha mixer with a 6 kilo dough capacity and removable dough hook and removable bowl, which we find really practical. We have a one speed model but recently Häussler also introduced a 2 speed model. We are very content with this mixer.<br />
(see also <a href="http://www.haeussler-gmbh.de/de/produkte/produkte_teigknetmaschinen.php?id=3)" rel="nofollow">http://www.haeussler-gmbh.de/de/produkte/produkte_teigknetmaschinen.php?id=3)</a></p>
<p>Regards,</p>
<p>Marieke</p>
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		<title>By: Doncello</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doncello</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 22:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!!! Awesome Loaf

Can you tell me anything about the mixer you use in the video? Looks pretty good mixer, isn´t it?

Thanks a lot</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!!! Awesome Loaf</p>
<p>Can you tell me anything about the mixer you use in the video? Looks pretty good mixer, isn´t it?</p>
<p>Thanks a lot</p>
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		<title>By: Marieke</title>
		<link>http://www.trifles.nl/2009/12/09/baking-bread-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-27006</link>
		<dc:creator>Marieke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you George,

What a nice analogy, also befitting the season! 
We hope to do more.

Happy Holidays,


Marieke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you George,</p>
<p>What a nice analogy, also befitting the season!<br />
We hope to do more.</p>
<p>Happy Holidays,</p>
<p>Marieke</p>
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		<title>By: george eckrich</title>
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		<dc:creator>george eckrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 14:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great job! watching the oven spring was like being present at birth. Do some more posts. thanks. george</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great job! watching the oven spring was like being present at birth. Do some more posts. thanks. george</p>
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		<title>By: Marieke</title>
		<link>http://www.trifles.nl/2009/12/09/baking-bread-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-26806</link>
		<dc:creator>Marieke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 18:30:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Magda,

Sorry our little country is so cold at the moment..and it&#039;s only getting colder now. Stay warm with some nice hot cocoa and a lot of baking and staying close to the oven and staring through the oven window like we do! And I&#039;m sure you are not going to regret buying that Microplane.

Marieke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Magda,</p>
<p>Sorry our little country is so cold at the moment..and it&#8217;s only getting colder now. Stay warm with some nice hot cocoa and a lot of baking and staying close to the oven and staring through the oven window like we do! And I&#8217;m sure you are not going to regret buying that Microplane.</p>
<p>Marieke</p>
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		<title>By: my little expat kitchen</title>
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		<dc:creator>my little expat kitchen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 11:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an interesting video. I loved it. And the shot of the bread cooking....great!
I haven&#039;t heard that song in such a long time. Perfect choice
Magda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an interesting video. I loved it. And the shot of the bread cooking&#8230;.great!<br />
I haven&#8217;t heard that song in such a long time. Perfect choice<br />
Magda</p>
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		<title>By: Marieke</title>
		<link>http://www.trifles.nl/2009/12/09/baking-bread-the-movie/comment-page-1/#comment-26788</link>
		<dc:creator>Marieke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:39:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Rofco oven has 3 floors of brick, you can bake 6 breads in one go. The oven takes about 2 hours to heat up. The first hour it heats continuous and the second hour the heat spreads evenly through the bricks and the oven only heats for a minute every 5 minutes or so. It is a Belgium handmade oven made by a small family owned company for over 20 years (www.rofco.be).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Rofco oven has 3 floors of brick, you can bake 6 breads in one go. The oven takes about 2 hours to heat up. The first hour it heats continuous and the second hour the heat spreads evenly through the bricks and the oven only heats for a minute every 5 minutes or so. It is a Belgium handmade oven made by a small family owned company for over 20 years (www.rofco.be).</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 16:16:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the video!  But I can&#039;t seem to find anything on your Rofco hearth bread oven.  Can you point me to more information about the oven?
Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the video!  But I can&#8217;t seem to find anything on your Rofco hearth bread oven.  Can you point me to more information about the oven?<br />
Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Marieke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marieke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 15:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a song that got stuck in my head back in the 80&#039;s. It&#039;s from Laid Back. They are from Denmark. Better known maybe for something called &#039;Sunshine Reggae&#039;. Funny detail: A remix of &#039;Bakerman&#039; by British DJ Shaun Baker reached number one in Greenland in 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a song that got stuck in my head back in the 80&#8242;s. It&#8217;s from Laid Back. They are from Denmark. Better known maybe for something called &#8216;Sunshine Reggae&#8217;. Funny detail: A remix of &#8216;Bakerman&#8217; by British DJ Shaun Baker reached number one in Greenland in 2006.</p>
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		<title>By: dewey</title>
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		<dc:creator>dewey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 13:22:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great video and even great loaf of bread.  And by the way, who&#039;s music are you using?</description>
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		<title>By: Adam Weber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam Weber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 11:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Absolutely beautiful in every way! 

Great equipment, excellent (baking) technique and very good cinematic skill. Even the sound-track was cool. 

Thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely beautiful in every way! </p>
<p>Great equipment, excellent (baking) technique and very good cinematic skill. Even the sound-track was cool. </p>
<p>Thank you very much.</p>
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